• trickylens
    2 months ago

    I am completely uninterested in what humans can do with pharmacological or machine assistance.

    I am interested in what humans can actually learn to do with refinements to techniques, training, diet and routine.

    YMMV.

  • Russpanorama_fish_eye
    2 months ago

    Cool. That's why you have clean, ethical and honest competitions like the Olympics to enjoy.

  • trickylens
    2 months ago

    Sarcasm doesn't become you.

  • Russpanorama_fish_eye
    2 months ago

    Am I wrong? I'm not saying you should have any interest in an openly juiced competition, but I know you're not pretending that other major events aren't exercises in seeing who's the best at concealing the juice.

  • JellyHeadpanorama_fish_eye
    2 months ago

    Agree with you on machine assistance, but not pharmaceutical assistance. I'd also add in selective breeding, I've read a number of articles theorising that the Caribbean and USA lead the way in sprinting because of the slave trade which was basically rapid natural selection.

    Of course I'm looking at this from a sports science stand point, what is the effect and what is the potential of all pathways.

    From a purist stand point I agree. If it ain't natural, no. But where do you draw the line? I can't recall if it was the Soveits or East Germany that routinely got the female athletes pregnant and aborted them to basically give them PEDs.

    From an entertainment standpoint.... well the masses will decide via foot fall.

  • Simonhelp_outline
    2 months ago

    Pretty confident it’ll remain a sideshow but it needs to be destroying world records to get any traction whatsoever.

    If it’s “mediocre” athletes running (say) 9.9 second 100 meters, no-one’s going to be interested. Run 9.5 and there’s something to see.

  • trickylens
    2 months ago

    The sort of ghouls (and pharma) who get involved will ensure that's where the money is. So top athletes will take that route. And a pyramid of prospects (kids) will get jacked up and surgically enhanced. And breeding programmes, obviously.

    Its what we will want sport to be about. Don't worry, your champions will have great branding.

  • Russpanorama_fish_eye
    2 months ago

    Did you read the article? A guy who went to 4 Olympics and never medaled already broke the 100m freestyle record and they haven't even started competing yet.

  • Psychobelpanorama_fish_eye
    2 months ago

    Mad as our beloved leader is, I believe he is, sadly, very correct in this. We will largely be cyborgs in the next 25 years anyway so it follows.

  • Seanpanorama_fish_eye
    2 months ago

    I read that last bit in the voice of Jim McDonald. So I did.

  • Russpanorama_fish_eye
    2 months ago

    Cool. I'm absolutely down for my consciousness getting planted into an endlessly upgradeable and supportable physical unit, versus a time limited and endlessly degrading carbon-based platform.

  • Mangetoutpanorama_fish_eye
    2 months ago

    Altered Carbon suggested the inevitable dark side of this. You won't own the body, the corporations will.

  • Russpanorama_fish_eye
    2 months ago

    If the alternative is not existing at all, that still seems like a straightforward choice.

  • Resident_Alienpanorama_fish_eye
    2 months ago

    Is Russ leaning into eugenics again?

  • Russpanorama_fish_eye
    2 months ago

    How is prolonging my own existence eugenics?

  • Jakepanorama_fish_eye
    2 months ago

    What's wrong with the traditional way of just having kids?

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