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tricky
25 Apr 2023
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    tricky
    Board 7343 posts
    3 May 2025, 7:42 p.m. 3 May 2025, 7:42 p.m.
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    This is what frustrates me. People seem to think that decades of undermining, defending, and running down things, versus one policy decision and no time, can immediately fix things. Try not to be idiots, people.

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    JRs_Cigarette
    Squad 2194 posts
    3 May 2025, 8:21 p.m. 3 May 2025, 8:21 p.m.
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    Agreed, but it's true in any project you need some quick wins to celebrate to keep people onside. I don't think the trains are a quick win to celebrate, compared to some of the other things Guru listed.

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    tricky
    Board 7343 posts
    3 May 2025, 8:24 p.m. 3 May 2025, 8:24 p.m.
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    There have been some quick wins. Largely under reported with a weird slant, for some reason, from the same press that gushed about Truss's budget. It's a rigged deck. The Labour government are, it seems to me, trying to establish some long term gains, without opening up too many attack vectors.

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    Mangetout
    Squad 2426 posts
    3 May 2025, 8:24 p.m. 3 May 2025, 8:24 p.m.
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    They've got a few years to get those wins. There's an argument that making your most unpleasant decisions early means they might be forgotten come election time, but it requires a fair media environment.

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    Russ
    Squad 6427 posts
    4 May 2025, 12:11 a.m. 4 May 2025, 12:11 a.m.
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    www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/may/03/mp-luke-charters-calls-for-trials-of-lifting-drinking-ban-in-english-football-stands

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    JRs_Cigarette
    Squad 2194 posts
    4 May 2025, 7:23 a.m. 4 May 2025, 7:23 a.m.
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    Not a fan. At rugby it's an absolute pain in the arse with the constant flow of people heading to the bar or the bog.

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    Simon
    Squad 6599 posts
    4 May 2025, 7:26 a.m. 4 May 2025, 7:26 a.m.
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    @JRs_Cigarette has written:

    Not a fan. At rugby it's an absolute pain in the arse with the constant flow of people heading to the bar or the bog.

    Agreed. And it’s guaranteed some dickheads will think it’s fun to chuck their beer in the air when their team scores.

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    Ingo
    Squad 2647 posts
    4 May 2025, 9:03 a.m. 4 May 2025, 9:03 a.m.
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    Drinking area/non drinking areas?

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    JimShady
    Squad 3849 posts
    4 May 2025, 9:37 a.m. 4 May 2025, 9:37 a.m.
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    @Russ has written:

    www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/may/03/mp-luke-charters-calls-for-trials-of-lifting-drinking-ban-in-english-football-stands

    Can't help but feel this agenda is being pushed by PL owners to extract even more money from fans during "the match day experience".

    Was interesting hearing from Spurs fans on the podcast a couple of weeks ago about how all their fans get to the ground 2+ hours before KO now and drink there rather than in the local pubs. They'll be lots of PL clubs who are aiming for a similar thing.

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    tricky
    Board 7343 posts
    4 May 2025, 9:38 a.m. 4 May 2025, 9:38 a.m.
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    On the continent I've been in grounds where you sit in the stands and have beer brought to you....in nice sedate areas. Not sure how it scales to the 'ultra' sections where home and away contingents are a bit more rabid.

    I like beer. I don't like beer in football grounds. Largely because it's crap in plastic glasses. The interest behind selling beer in football grounds is to harvest more cash from supporters. I don't mind people drinking in the ground, but I don't want to wear their drink. I'm happy for other people to enjoy a drink in the stands, if they do it without a negative impact on those around them.

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    JRs_Cigarette
    Squad 2194 posts
    4 May 2025, 10:17 a.m. 4 May 2025, 10:17 a.m.
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    @tricky has written:

    if they do it without a negative impact on those around them

    It's a no from you too then!

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    Jeff_Albertson
    Squad 1231 posts
    4 May 2025, 6:31 p.m. 4 May 2025, 6:31 p.m.
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    @Simon has written:
    @JRs_Cigarette has written:

    Not a fan. At rugby it's an absolute pain in the arse with the constant flow of people heading to the bar or the bog.

    Agreed. And it’s guaranteed some dickheads will think it’s fun to chuck their beer in the air when their team scores.

    At a non-league game a couple of weeks ago, a fan chucked his beer over one of the opposition players.

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    JRs_Cigarette
    Squad 2194 posts
    6 May 2025, 8:55 p.m. 6 May 2025, 8:55 p.m.
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    This is odd. Presumably not trying to rob the bank, but, whilst there is CCTV everywhere these days, a bank seems a particularly poor choice to stab someone.

    BBC News - Derby stabbing: Murder arrest after Lloyds customer killed in bank - BBC News
    www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce3q3y05zxko

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    Resident_Alien
    Squad 750 posts
    8 May 2025, 1:45 a.m. 8 May 2025, 1:45 a.m.
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    Proper dystopian

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    noodle
    Squad 999 posts
    8 May 2025, 3:12 a.m. 8 May 2025, 3:12 a.m.
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    @Russ has written:

    @noodle @Todd @Mangetout

    This sounds slightly promising, no?

    www.cnn.com/2025/05/02/australia/polling-young-voters-australia-election-intl-hnk

    Late to this but yes, a very pleasing result. Especially glad that after seeing chunks of the UK reward Trumpyness, Australia did the opposite. They saw a weak opposition with nothing to say apart from culture war shit and DOGE… and said ‘yeah nah… we’ll stick with the boring guy because at least he’s not a cunt’.

    The Liberals (Tories) have been pretty much wiped out in every city in the country.. which has to be down to climate denial and their embrace of the right. I think that they are actually now the minority party in their own coalition with the ‘Nationals’ (who are the party of choice for the rurals). You cant win here without cities.. cos they are where the people live.

    All that said, the libs did go from one extremely unlikable leader to another. They might not be so stupid again.. but if they go back to being just a standard centre-right party that hates immigrants and the poor… well that puts them broadly in line with the Labor party that just kicked their asses… so no great drama.

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    tricky
    Board 7343 posts
    19 May 2025, 1 p.m. 19 May 2025, 1 p.m.
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    I see that in a they are all the same, and the labour government is doing nothing news, that at an EU UK summit there is currently the announcement of a wide range of measures that will radically improve our trade, security and movement of goods. Net effect, the ordinary people in the country better off, with more opportunity, and less isolated from collective action.

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