• JimShadypanorama_fish_eye
    4 months ago

    I started to, honestly, got maybe 7 paragraphs in then had to go make dinner. His analysis seems sensible and suggestions too.

  • stevepanorama_fish_eye
    4 months ago

    In case you hadn't noticed the way we have fucked the planet is starting to deal with that.

  • noodlehelp_outline
    4 months ago

    Will the kids of the super wealthy sell, though? Or will they hold the asset and just take the income from renting it out? They’re the kids of the super wealthy, after all. Maybe the cash out if the land gets zoned for development… by which time the IHT is a rounding error anyway. Otherwise why not just wait the ten years?

    Generally I am all for people being able to defer things like IHT (or land tax, my fave bane of the ‘cash poor’ millionaires) but not if it’s on the never-never or it times-out. That’s just another loophole waiting to be exploited. ‘Oh ok, here’s £20m for a ten year rental of your farm plus an option to buy for 50p at the end’.

  • Lessredpanorama_fish_eye
    4 months ago

    Well, to be honest the current way doesn't stop that anyway. A 1,000 year lease on a peppercorn rent, then the land is worthless anyway for IHT.

    But it may well stop the people who buy 50 to 100 acres.

  • stevepanorama_fish_eye
    4 months ago

    Is the answer to this not something to do with price of their food, spending more collectively on our food, and buying more locally, moving away from supermarkets towards localised production and sales? The first line above suggests so.

  • JRs_Cigarettepanorama_fish_eye
    4 months ago

    Where do the 12m or so that live in London get their local food from in this model?

    Actually I've missed the point haven't I, thats how the population gets back to levels that the local model can cope with.

  • Ingopanorama_fish_eye
    4 months ago

    The rest of the UK? I mean, for me, you cockney bastards can grow your own food, but anything has to be better than flying it halfway round the world.

  • Ingopanorama_fish_eye
    4 months ago

    I thought so but I think the consensus is "naaar, fuck um."

  • 4 months ago

    Having a trade deal with your nearest neighbours makes more sense than one with Aussie and NZ, you'd think.

  • JRs_Cigarettepanorama_fish_eye
    4 months ago

    The doing away with supermarkets suggested everyone was popping to good old Farmer Giles down the road to get half a dozen eggs and a pint of milk.

    I agree flying stuff around isn't great. Can the collective Farmer Giles's actually produce enough food to feed our population? I've no idea if it's feasible.

  • JimShadypanorama_fish_eye
    4 months ago

    So your point is that farmers are earning barely enough to get by, so they should be exempt from inheritance tax?

  • noodlehelp_outline
    4 months ago

    Yeah, but if you do it before death then the proceeds are subject to IHT, right?

  • Lessredpanorama_fish_eye
    4 months ago

    What proceeds? And you could do it into trust

  • noodlehelp_outline
    4 months ago

    Isn’t the point of making it worthless for IHT to actually extract the value by some other means? Not just simply to make it worthless.

    And don’t get me started on Trusts… because I don’t know what I’m talking about At All. Pretty sure they’re bad though.

  • Lessredpanorama_fish_eye
    4 months ago

    You want it to be worthless so there is no IHT, but you can continue to farm it.

    If you are super rich then 20% is probably fine, cheaper than most other assets

    But you are right, it would probably make selling it harder.

  • Lessredpanorama_fish_eye
    4 months ago

    Actually thinking about this wouldn't you just be swapping inheritance tax for income tax?

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