• RCpanorama_fish_eye
    2 years ago

    Tbf it does say ‘futile attempt’ which is pretty much on the money.

  • Simonhelp_outline
    2 years ago

    So, did the all-powerful "project" fail to get rid of her? Or is weakening her but leaving her in place all part of the bigger picture?

  • trickylens
    2 years ago

    Have you every known her so quiet since coming to public prominence? Let's see what happens.

    It seems to me that there's a bit of a night of the long knives to remove those figures that you mostly associate with the clear bonkers fascist lying. In the hope that you'll swallow the prop and vote in bland puppet rich-ie. Because labour are all the same anyway.*

    * they aren't.

  • Nottingham_Floristpanorama_fish_eye
    2 years ago

    If Sunak is in on the plan to to remove those figures that you mostly associate with the clear bonkers fascist lying, why did he bring Braverman back from the back benches days after she had been sacked in order to then sack her six months later?

    These conspirators seem to be both master manipulators and fucking idiots.

  • Simonhelp_outline
    2 years ago
  • noodlehelp_outline
    2 years ago

    If that was the only such thing found on his phone it’s likely that he found it amusing, not arousing.

  • Russpanorama_fish_eye
    2 years ago
  • Simonhelp_outline
    2 years ago
  • trickylens
    2 years ago

    Why bring in a person to continue divisive fascist rhetoric, and distract the electorate from the reality? To continue the methods they had been deploying with success.

    Why then look to get rid of them in the run up to an election? Because the delivery is so vile that it is proving to be more liability than asset.

    Bland front is an attempt to placate and sooth...because frothing fervour has burnt out, in the face of the actuality. Sunak is just the face that fits now, and is no more in charge than johnson was. The process and mode of operation has not changed, the structural reshaping of the institutions and relationship between power and the people, has not changed.

    Only the sell is changing.

    They are undertaking a massive reshaping of society, and there are inevitable hazards in such significant change management. If you are buying the repeated accidental fuckup model, you might well be spooked if they shone a light at the methods they had been using, so their pressure is restricted to the inanae coupled with captive media scrutiny...something obviously absent from the real actions that are criminal and anti-society....while fighting to prevent any actual analysis of what they were saying, and what they were doing (for example the covid enquiry).

  • Simonhelp_outline
    2 years ago

    Because political parties under FPTP are coalitions. And, since Johnson got rid of anyone who thought a no deal Brexit was a terrible idea, the Tory coalition skews much further to the right that it did even in 2015. Braverman (or other psycho) in the Home Office talking tough about immigration placates the right of that right wing coalition.

  • trickylens
    2 years ago

    Correct, until focus groups show that it will sink the project, and power trumps all.

    The question to ask is why has the tory party moved to the bonkers fascist right. My view is that it's not an accident. If there were a couple of nutters moving to the right they would be eviscerated, marginalised, and excluded from power.

    Unless they were exactly what was needed/wanted.

  • Nottingham_Floristpanorama_fish_eye
    2 years ago

    So, in your scenario, Sunak, or his master manipulators, now want to get rid of Braverman, primed the Civil Service to spread damaging leaks about her, then didn't use those leaks to provoke a referral to his ethics advisor under the minsterial code, which would have led to her sacking.

  • trickylens
    2 years ago

    So, in your scenario, the 'free' (and captive) press felt obliged under their public service remit to climb all over bravermans low level conversation with civil servants, but underplay the illegality of her legislation, commitment to pursuing an act illegal in international law, and her links with government level officials in rhwanda?

    Maybe they were just giving her a chance to duck out of public, to avoid being tainted by the minor (underplayed) furore over the actual immigration figures?

    As I say, we will have to see how it plays out.

  • JellyHeadpanorama_fish_eye
    2 years ago
  • trickylens
    2 years ago

    In fairness the old testament is full of some pretty extreme shit.

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