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JimShady
22 May 2024
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    JRs_Cigarette
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    5 Jul 2024, 8:32 a.m. 5 Jul 2024, 8:32 a.m.
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    @Seven has written:

    The economy will pick up in the next few years and things will get better for people

    No idea what you are basing this on. Hope isn't a strategy.

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    jamesob
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    5 Jul 2024, 8:37 a.m. 5 Jul 2024, 8:37 a.m.
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    Possibly the third industrial revolution that, inexplicably, nobody has been talking about at all in the election campaign?

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    JRs_Cigarette
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    5 Jul 2024, 8:47 a.m. 5 Jul 2024, 8:47 a.m.
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    Possibly because there is no such thing.

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    jamesob
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    5 Jul 2024, 9:05 a.m. 5 Jul 2024, 9:05 a.m.
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    I don't know how anybody can seriously think that unless they have been totally ignoring generative AI. It's the Internet, printing press, roberts loom multiplied by about 1000 and that's already becoming quite clear. It's the biggest deal of our time* and the world is going to be a totally different place in 3 to 5 years because of it.

    *along with climate change; if you zoom out everything else fades into relative triviality

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    JRs_Cigarette
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    5 Jul 2024, 9:18 a.m. 5 Jul 2024, 9:18 a.m.
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    And that's going to help the economy of the UK and it's individual citizens how?

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    tricky
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    5 Jul 2024, 9:30 a.m. 5 Jul 2024, 9:30 a.m.
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    I see that Truss didn't make a cheerio speech (good choice, when she speaks, it makes her look stupid). But in an interview on her way out she suggested that the tories lost because they were unable to deny immigrants their human rights.

    I'm not even joking.

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    Ingo
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    5 Jul 2024, 9:30 a.m. 5 Jul 2024, 9:30 a.m.
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    Don't platform the paedo.

    edit: @JRs_Cigarette, not @tricky or even Liz Truss, obvs.

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    jamesob
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    5 Jul 2024, 9:45 a.m. 5 Jul 2024, 9:45 a.m.
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    @JRs_Cigarette has written:

    And that's going to help the economy of the UK and it's individual citizens how?

    Because near term unless humanity completely fucks it up it will lead to a massive productivity boom like nothing we have ever seen before and lack of productivity has been one of the main reasons for lack of growth. Growth leads to more wealth, more corporate tax revenues, more public money. It is also going to mean in costly areas like health we are genuinely going to be due unfathomably more and better much much more efficiently. There are risks with this of course to do with the transition, like deflation ultimately. But it's an amazing opportunity.

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    Seven
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    5 Jul 2024, 10:14 a.m. 5 Jul 2024, 10:14 a.m.
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    @JRs_Cigarette has written:
    @Seven has written:

    The economy will pick up in the next few years and things will get better for people

    No idea what you are basing this on. Hope isn't a strategy.

    Interest rates are already back to what they should be and mortgage rates will start to drop soon. That’s a huge start. Energy bills also starting to come down. (Which is why the timing of the election was odd).

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    noodle
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    5 Jul 2024, 10:38 a.m. 5 Jul 2024, 10:38 a.m.
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    @tricky has written:

    I see that Truss didn't make a cheerio speech (good choice, when she speaks, it makes her look stupid). But in an interview on her way out she suggested that the tories lost because they were unable to deny immigrants their human rights.

    I'm not even joking.

    Remarkable stuff, wasn’t it. I think people need to stop talking about her like she’s a clueless moron. It flatters her. She’s fucking vile.

    The two wings of rhetoric coming from beaten Tories does point towards an unrepairable rupture. Either they will elect a competent ‘mild’ Tory who will flush out the nutters like Starmer did with the Corbynites, or surely that party is going to formally split up.

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    Ingo
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    5 Jul 2024, 10:55 a.m. 5 Jul 2024, 10:55 a.m.
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    @Seven has written:
    @JRs_Cigarette has written:
    @Seven has written:

    The economy will pick up in the next few years and things will get better for people

    No idea what you are basing this on. Hope isn't a strategy.

    Interest rates are already back to what they should be and mortgage rates will start to drop soon.

    Aren't these results rather than causes of an economic recovery?

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    tricky
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    5 Jul 2024, 11:24 a.m. 5 Jul 2024, 11:24 a.m.
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    @noodle has written:

    Remarkable stuff, wasn’t it. I think people need to stop talking about her like she’s a clueless moron. It flatters her. She’s fucking vile.

    She's an illustrative case study. Interesting because from her history it is clear that she has no ideology beyond a ruthless desire for personal advancement. So it's highly unlikely, in her case, that she has developed a coherent deeply held policy framework for the advancement of society. It's much more likely that she's taken on board the policy of others, to advance herself personally.

    As long as our wider society ask ourselves where that is coming from, and what it's intentions are, and keep those malign actors happy to embrace it as far away from power as possible, then we have a chance.

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    Seven
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    5 Jul 2024, 11:33 a.m. 5 Jul 2024, 11:33 a.m.
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    I know a senior civil servant who says Starmer has already named his ministers and they could be announced today. Seems a bit a quick but they’ve no reason to make it up.

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    Seven
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    5 Jul 2024, 11:35 a.m. 5 Jul 2024, 11:35 a.m.
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    @Ingo has written:
    @Seven has written:
    @JRs_Cigarette has written:
    @Seven has written:

    The economy will pick up in the next few years and things will get better for people

    No idea what you are basing this on. Hope isn't a strategy.

    Interest rates are already back to what they should be and mortgage rates will start to drop soon.

    Aren't these results rather than causes of an economic recovery?

    Quite possibly, I’m no economist. We are just told the economy will improve over the next few years and the starting points were energy prices dipping and inflation being back to normal/interest rates down. We will see.

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    Dean
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    5 Jul 2024, 11:38 a.m. 5 Jul 2024, 11:38 a.m.
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    Sunak has quit as Tory leader

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    tricky
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    5 Jul 2024, 11:39 a.m. 5 Jul 2024, 11:39 a.m.
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    @Seven has written:

    I know a senior civil servant who says Starmer has already named his ministers and they could be announced today. Seems a bit a quick but they’ve no reason to make it up.

    What's quick about it? Why wouldn't you have a plan in place for the eventuality? I know that the uk has become accustomed to unprincipled arseholes making it up as they go along, but it doesn't have to be that way.

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