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JimShady
22 May 2024
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    BrettWilliams
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    3 Jun 2024, 4:17 p.m. 3 Jun 2024, 4:17 p.m.
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    Farage standing in Clacton and the new leader of Reform.

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    Simon
    Squad 6581 posts
    3 Jun 2024, 4:44 p.m. 3 Jun 2024, 4:44 p.m.
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    @BrettWilliams has written:

    Farage standing in Clacton and the new leader of Reform.

    The post-election fallout if the Tories have more seats but Reform more votes (not sure of the likelihood of that) will be interesting. And bad as it would inevitably move the Tories to the right, even if there isn't some kind of merger.

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    BrettWilliams
    Squad 2208 posts
    4 Jun 2024, 8:19 p.m. 4 Jun 2024, 8:19 p.m.
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    x.com/supertanskiii/status/1798061819225104865?t=l5SuSMVy43jXXzrofb_Hmg&s=19

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    Mangetout
    Squad 2425 posts
    4 Jun 2024, 10:58 p.m. 4 Jun 2024, 10:58 p.m.
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    @BrettWilliams has written:

    x.com/supertanskiii/status/1798061819225104865?t=l5SuSMVy43jXXzrofb_Hmg&s=19

    Not unhappy with calling Rishi The Big Short.

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    Charlie
    Squad 1826 posts
    5 Jun 2024, 7:27 a.m. 5 Jun 2024, 7:27 a.m.
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    This £2000 tax hike that Sunak banged on about in last night’s “debate” is the same sort of lie from the same playbook of the same people who gave the world the £350m on the side of the Brexit bus. Labour need to make sure it doesn’t have the same impact.

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    Jeff_Albertson
    Squad 1231 posts
    5 Jun 2024, 7:28 a.m. 5 Jun 2024, 7:28 a.m.
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    @Charlie has written:

    This £2000 tax hike that Sunak banged on about in last night’s “debate” is the same sort of lie from the same playbook of the same people who gave the world the £350m on the side of the Brexit bus. Labour need to make sure it doesn’t have the same impact.

    Sadly, almost every (right wing) national newspaper has it on the front page today.

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    Guru
    Squad 1361 posts
    5 Jun 2024, 7:38 a.m. 5 Jun 2024, 7:38 a.m.
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    Starmer was so busy not dropping the ming vase last night that he didn’t slap down the chippy, hectoring, lying little fucker.

    I suppose what’s interesting is that the major news outlets have now debunked the claim and the question is “why did Starmer not call out the bollocks until Sunak had said it 10 times?” As opposed to “it’s true, Labour will raise taxes.”

    Will be interesting to see what impact that debate, coupled with ubercunt Farage arriving on the scene has on the polls.

    It think by the time of the next debate, Starmer will need to develop better skills to react quicker to all the bullshit, call out the constant interruptions and play a little more dirty.

    Resident_Alien, BrettWilliams, JimShady and 1 other user like this.

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    Ingo
    Squad 2646 posts
    5 Jun 2024, 2:01 p.m. 5 Jun 2024, 2:01 p.m.
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    Ingo: First with the real e(r)lection news.

    www.thesun.co.uk/news/28312041/onlyfans-model-nigel-farage-milshake-promote/

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    Russ
    Squad 6401 posts
    5 Jun 2024, 2:14 p.m. 5 Jun 2024, 2:14 p.m.
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    @Ingo has written:

    Ingo: First with the real e(r)lection news.

    www.thesun.co.uk/news/28312041/onlyfans-model-nigel-farage-milshake-promote/

    Would

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    BrettWilliams
    Squad 2208 posts
    5 Jun 2024, 2:21 p.m. 5 Jun 2024, 2:21 p.m.
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    @Ingo has written:

    Ingo: First with the real e(r)lection news.

    www.thesun.co.uk/news/28312041/onlyfans-model-nigel-farage-milshake-promote/

    A young woman on the Twatter had posted an approach she'd had yesterday afternoon from the Mail. One of their reporters had obviously been trawling social media trying to find the person that threw the milkshake.

    Mail told her the likeness was remarkable and therefore suggested she should either grant them an interview or confirm it wasn't her. I'm hoping she told them to fuck off.

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    Seven
    Squad 1459 posts
    5 Jun 2024, 2:24 p.m. 5 Jun 2024, 2:24 p.m.
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    @Guru has written:

    Starmer was so busy not dropping the ming vase last night that he didn’t slap down the chippy, hectoring, lying little fucker.

    I suppose what’s interesting is that the major news outlets have now debunked the claim and the question is “why did Starmer not call out the bollocks until Sunak had said it 10 times?” As opposed to “it’s true, Labour will raise taxes.”

    Will be interesting to see what impact that debate, coupled with ubercunt Farage arriving on the scene has on the polls.

    It think by the time of the next debate, Starmer will need to develop better skills to react quicker to all the bullshit, call out the constant interruptions and play a little more dirty.

    I think you are being overly harsh. Starmer got in some excellent lines and his point about the tories not looking back as they are ashamed was very good.

    Some are saying he was aware of that letter from the treasury last night but didn’t bring it up as it was to be used after. Not too sure I believe this but they’ve done well if that’s true.

    As for being more aggressive im not so sure, everyone could see Sunak for the obnoxious cunt he is, Starmer doesn’t need to do that.

    All the polls out since say Starmer won the debate.

    Sunak has to be extraordinary in these to get the polls moving but he wasn’t last night and even got laughed at a couple of times.

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    Simon
    Squad 6581 posts
    5 Jun 2024, 2:29 p.m. 5 Jun 2024, 2:29 p.m.
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    @Seven has written:

    Some are saying he was aware of that letter from the treasury last night but didn’t bring it up as it was to be used after. Not too sure I believe this but they’ve done well if that’s true.

    If you can debunk it, you have to do that on the stage at the time. It's nonsense anyway - how can it be legitimate for the Tories to waste civil service time costing Labour pledges while making wild assumptions of what they mean?

    Labour will be putting up taxes, because the next government will have to put up taxes or smash public services even worse than the Tories have already.

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    Charlie
    Squad 1826 posts
    5 Jun 2024, 2:33 p.m. 5 Jun 2024, 2:33 p.m.
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    @Simon has written:

    Labour will be putting up taxes

    Personally, I'd be much happier - and expect a fairer outcome - with Labour doing it rather than the Tories.

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    Seven
    Squad 1459 posts
    5 Jun 2024, 3:04 p.m. 5 Jun 2024, 3:04 p.m.
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    @Simon has written:
    @Seven has written:

    Some are saying he was aware of that letter from the treasury last night but didn’t bring it up as it was to be used after. Not too sure I believe this but they’ve done well if that’s true.

    If you can debunk it, you have to do that on the stage at the time. It's nonsense anyway - how can it be legitimate for the Tories to waste civil service time costing Labour pledges while making wild assumptions of what they mean?

    Labour will be putting up taxes, because the next government will have to put up taxes or smash public services even worse than the Tories have already.

    Ordinarily would agree, but the media has been full of it all day and it’s accepted its a a lie. Even by the Spectator.

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    Simon
    Squad 6581 posts
    5 Jun 2024, 3:11 p.m. 5 Jun 2024, 3:11 p.m.
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    @Seven has written:
    @Simon has written:
    @Seven has written:

    Some are saying he was aware of that letter from the treasury last night but didn’t bring it up as it was to be used after. Not too sure I believe this but they’ve done well if that’s true.

    If you can debunk it, you have to do that on the stage at the time. It's nonsense anyway - how can it be legitimate for the Tories to waste civil service time costing Labour pledges while making wild assumptions of what they mean?

    Labour will be putting up taxes, because the next government will have to put up taxes or smash public services even worse than the Tories have already.

    Ordinarily would agree, but the media has been full of it all day and it’s accepted its a a lie. Even by the Spectator.

    Media was full of how £350m was misleading, at best. The underlying message - we pay the EU lots of money still landed.

    Personally, if Labour are guaranteed to win, I’d rather they were as honest as they can be or the backlash will be worse. Although May in 2017 shows that can backfire.

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    Ingo
    Squad 2646 posts
    5 Jun 2024, 3:28 p.m. 5 Jun 2024, 3:28 p.m.
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    @Seven has written:

    All the polls out since say Starmer won the debate.

    This isn't true.

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