• 20 Jun 2024, 6:58 p.m.

    As you know. Until people can get over Kane's numbers, and actually set up ( and practice! ) to maximise the team, there's a ceiling to what we can be. However good individual players are.

    It's fascinating that the meedja have just started saying what has been blatantly obvious for years. Still, one swallow doesn't make a summer.

  • 20 Jun 2024, 7:02 p.m.

    Whilst I agree, That performance was way more than Kane’s fault. Rice was awful. TAA is not a holding midfield player. Bellingham was anonymous. Southgate has set them up terribly. And when you can’t keep the ball, the answer is NOT Connor Gallagher.

  • 20 Jun 2024, 7:18 p.m.

    This made me chuckle in a childish way.

  • 20 Jun 2024, 9:16 p.m.

    🤌🏻

  • 20 Jun 2024, 10:03 p.m.

    I'm merely a troll but ask this:

    What did Tuchel want with Kane?
    What did Conte want with Kane?
    What did Pochettino want with Kane?
    What does Southgate want with Kane?
    What does tricky want with Kane?

    There's an odd one out in the above and it's to do with ability to forge a career as a world class football coach.

  • 20 Jun 2024, 10:15 p.m.

    Southgate is quoted on the BBC website as saying England haven't found a natural replacement for Kalvin Phillips.
    How often and how recently has Phillips played for England? I thought he'd been injured for...ever.

  • 20 Jun 2024, 10:25 p.m.

    How many of these people actually bought Kane? What good did it do him?

    Troll.

  • 20 Jun 2024, 10:47 p.m.

    I'm a troll for defending the best goalscorer in world football right now. But you're not despite thinking a lost right back is our best midfielder.

    Just opinions.

  • 20 Jun 2024, 11:08 p.m.

    But not actual opinions. Just trolling shite. I've never said what you imply. You don't believe what you write. Sad. But I get a lot of amusement out of you. So, thanks?

  • 20 Jun 2024, 11:18 p.m.

    Awww. Ditto.

    Best buds?

    The irony is I do see where you were coming from but he's patently not up to anchoring an international midfield. Mainoo might be.

  • 20 Jun 2024, 11:38 p.m.

    What do you expect? We always do badly against Scandinavian teams. This wasn't a surprise. I have to admit it was like watching early season Forest where we had no-one in midfield. TAA was terrible again and all his passes (can kick?) were poor. If you are going to play a midfield, try playing a central midfielder. Foden needs to be the 10. Bellingham needs to drop back and stop being so fucking hollywood. Watkins showed what a centre forward did with the Bellingham pass to him as he was on the move. Rice had a mare too but he is generally a very good central midfielder. I was thinking to myself who is really good in the centre, plays midifeld and can pass. Immediately I thought of Wharton. Since he is in the squad why the fuck not if Bellingham wants to be Foden and Foden wants to be Grealish. Guehi again was our man of the match. The whole team reeked of no tactics and were meek after the goal. What a fucking goal that was! Having said that, who gave it away? Harry useless Brain. He was utterly dreadful again and almost got in the way for our score.

    Watkins for me.

    So Denmark filled the midfield and created triangles. England were so spread apart than when they were pressed they had to hoof it long as no-one was coming for the ball and the midfield was missing. Absolutely missing. Hoijberg is pants for Tottenham generally but he bossed this game.
    \
    Grealish and Sterling are missed. We have talent but we looked lost.

    Oh well, always knew this wasn't going to be our day. Bring on group winners Slovenia.

    Chicago: Not surprised.

  • 20 Jun 2024, 11:45 p.m.

    Don't be an idiot. Or pretend to be. Saying someone can kick the ball well is nothing like saying they are an elite player in a specific position. I'm not going to dignify that shit with a defence, whether it's the result of gross stupidity, or the actual trolling that it is on your part.

    Don't tell me what I think. Especially when you are wrong. Give your own stupid on opinions, and let everyone laugh at you.

    If you antagonise people and maliciously put words in other peoples mouths, I will ban you, and your other accounts waiting to be used. Everyone is a guest here, with an opportunity to contribute to the community. Abuse that and you will be toast.

    I am quite happy to hear your stupid ideas and let people judge them on their merits. If you continue misrepresenting other peoples views, which is absolutely none of your fucking business, you will be gone in a second.

    With appropriate respect.

  • 21 Jun 2024, 9:37 a.m.

    Of course...but my position is more nuanced than 'it's all kane's fault'. Yes Rice was shit, yes there was little point trippier being on the pitch...but the point is that starting positions and passing options are radically changed by the failure to start from the front....and while it will be fine against moldova, because the other nine can dominate a team like that, it wont be okay against spain or germany or portugal (or italy or croatia in the recent past).

    The BBC were, for the first time amongst commentators on the games, highlighting the things that I (and others) have been saying for a number of years last night. While they were pointing out the bloody obvious for once, Thomas Frank said "But isn't that how he's been playing for four or five years?". Yes Thomas, it is.

    Southgate sets up for a certain game plan...and he hasn't trialled any substantive options to that...notably hardly giving any strikers any minutes at all and giving the team no chance to learn to play in a different way. Now he's picked a squad that can't play that way....stupidly gambled on a player that's played almost no football this year and isn't fit, and seemingly has little idea how to set up a team that isn't structured for straight line, set piece, and second phase.

    You could say that it's an unfortunate set of events that leaves us here.....were it not for the evidence of those of us who have been saying that we would for quite a substantial period of time.

    First problem: You don't want to start from here. Yet here we are.

    Harry Kane is completely gash in open play, crowds the areas where we have better players trying to find space and rhythm to play, and does not stretch the attack. He does not make himself available with strikery runs, and he seems unwilling or unable to make a meaningful press.

    If you want to play high and control possession and games that's your starting point. A failure to put pressure on the first out ball, and the ease with which the opposition can pick an option in midfield is exactly why the banks behind that forward press have to drop goal side. If you can't press from the front you will drop deep...or you will be carved open. That's just a football fact.