• 21 Jun 2024, 9:37 a.m.

    Of course...but my position is more nuanced than 'it's all kane's fault'. Yes Rice was shit, yes there was little point trippier being on the pitch...but the point is that starting positions and passing options are radically changed by the failure to start from the front....and while it will be fine against moldova, because the other nine can dominate a team like that, it wont be okay against spain or germany or portugal (or italy or croatia in the recent past).

    The BBC were, for the first time amongst commentators on the games, highlighting the things that I (and others) have been saying for a number of years last night. While they were pointing out the bloody obvious for once, Thomas Frank said "But isn't that how he's been playing for four or five years?". Yes Thomas, it is.

    Southgate sets up for a certain game plan...and he hasn't trialled any substantive options to that...notably hardly giving any strikers any minutes at all and giving the team no chance to learn to play in a different way. Now he's picked a squad that can't play that way....stupidly gambled on a player that's played almost no football this year and isn't fit, and seemingly has little idea how to set up a team that isn't structured for straight line, set piece, and second phase.

    You could say that it's an unfortunate set of events that leaves us here.....were it not for the evidence of those of us who have been saying that we would for quite a substantial period of time.

    First problem: You don't want to start from here. Yet here we are.

    Harry Kane is completely gash in open play, crowds the areas where we have better players trying to find space and rhythm to play, and does not stretch the attack. He does not make himself available with strikery runs, and he seems unwilling or unable to make a meaningful press.

    If you want to play high and control possession and games that's your starting point. A failure to put pressure on the first out ball, and the ease with which the opposition can pick an option in midfield is exactly why the banks behind that forward press have to drop goal side. If you can't press from the front you will drop deep...or you will be carved open. That's just a football fact.

  • 21 Jun 2024, 11:35 a.m.

    The only trouble with that analysis is we can and do/should press from the front, but it's via Saka/Foden/Gordon/Bowen. Kane is there to bring those runners into the game, to get into goal scoring positions with his movement and to finish and he is good at all of those things. Olie Watkins cannot.

  • 21 Jun 2024, 11:36 a.m.

    ?

  • 21 Jun 2024, 11:50 a.m.

    I mean by that him moving his body into positions were he is more likely than any other player to score a goal. See the header against Serbia and the goal yesterday. He will do that 4 or 5 times a game on a good day, and at least once on a bad one. Being there isn't as easy as it looks and scoring from there definitely isn't.

  • 21 Jun 2024, 12:10 p.m.

    And Kane dropping deep was adequate when we were playing 3-4-3 and the centre of the team was built around protecting Maguire, with Walker's pace at RCB and two holding midfielders in front (Rice and Phillips).
    Gareth has changed to a 4-2-3-1 due to a (correct) desire to include Bellingham and less need to protect Maguire. Kane hasn't adapted to that and still wants to drop deep and interfere in midfield, where there are better players.
    Scoring four against San Marino (two penalties), or a WC hat-trick v Panama (two penalties) is all well and good, but his record (all about those individual numbers!) against top-tier teams is average at best (and below-average if you remove the penalties, which Ward-Prowse/Palmer can take to the same high standard).

  • 21 Jun 2024, 12:25 p.m.

    The problem isn't Kane.

    It's Foden, TAA, Trippier and Southgate.

  • 21 Jun 2024, 12:36 p.m.

    One other thing that was noticeable yesterday was how disjointed the back 5 were in possession. Every single one of them at club level plays the modern system of short passing out from the keeper to draw the forwards into the press and create space further upfield, but they consistently looked surprised to have the ball and unsure what to do with it when they did. Later on Pickford tried to change the tempo and every time he had the ball he was screaming at his players to run so he could throw the ball past the press, and continually the defense jogged out looking for the short ball.

  • 21 Jun 2024, 1:28 p.m.

    Take 10 minutes out of your day and listen to the 1st half of todays Rest is football podcast, and Linekar provides a really good explanation of how you can play the high press with Kane.

  • 21 Jun 2024, 1:58 p.m.

    It's not a question of how you can, but what's actually best.

    You can play with Kane exactly like this. You just probably won't win anything. Which is something we've known for a full tournament cycle. In those four years we've done nothing to work on other stuff.

  • 21 Jun 2024, 2:30 p.m.

    That’s the point though we’re not playing a high press, so Kane always drifts back. What the crisp muncher highlights is how you can play with Kane, if Southgate wanted to, currently we’re disjointed and not leveraging the players we have.

  • 21 Jun 2024, 9:32 p.m.

    Someone is going to have to talk me through that offside.

  • 21 Jun 2024, 9:33 p.m.

    All you have to do is ask Stuart Atwell ;)

  • 21 Jun 2024, 9:49 p.m.

    How unlucky of our top referees to so often be in the vicinity of crap inconsistent decisions.

    Can't they catch a break?*

    * something minor, like a stress fracture. Just anything to keep them out for a bit, while they retrain.