DIRTY LEEDS AND THE LEAGUE. (A Match thread)

We aren't like the Bs, the club aren't really trying to be and there's no point pretending otherwise.

The result is that we have a higher ceiling and a lower floor.

I was suggesting that the fans, you and me, try to show some patience and time to players we bring in to try and let them develop. Particularly young ones and ones from abroad.

Preferably the club take that attitude too, but that's beyond our control.

You are saying that as the club and owner don't take a longer term view, the fans shouldn't either, and that it's therefore reasonable for us to write players off after a couple of months?

The problem with making shit up to suit your argument is that all too often it's not too difficult to see what's actually true. Start with my first comment on the topic midway down page 4, and please provide me with a link to where I said he wasn't very good.

talkback.trentend.uk/t/lets-mackem-lose-a-match-thread/478/4/

I can save you the effort if you like. I repeatedly said exactly as I have just said in this thread - he doesn't look worth the money. And it's not like it's a whole thing of him needing to settle or needing to get used to English football and the Premier League.

FWIW, I also don't understand why people are down on Ndoye - he looks like our best winger so far this season, albeit that's damning with faint praise. IMO he's got all the good bits of Jota Silva - workrate, directness, physicality, defensive responsibility, scoring threat - and a bunch more talent.

Apart from the handful we signed the summer we came up - O'Brien, the shit one from Watford, Bowler - which players have we fucked off for half of what we paid? I accept there may be one I can't remember, but I feel like most of the players we signed since promotion that didn't work out we've sold on for what we paid or more. We've kept the best ones and moved the others on quickly so they don't gum up the system.

I don't really think we're trying to be like the tinpots at all, we're trying to constantly improve the squad so we can compete at increasingly high levels, current predicament notwithstanding. The only deal we've done which fits the tinpot model is Elanga.

Tickets on general sale, it says here.

Almost all single tickets dotted around the ground. Couple of hundred or so I'd guess.

Cancel the new stand!

Members not eating up their scraps, boo, hiss!

I've been here since Yeovil blah blah blah!

They've gone to general sale as I'm not going tomorrow - it's Little Miss Shady's birthday party.

Looks like it's mostly ticket exchange for sale. Lazy, good for nothing, season ticket bastards.

You said it after he’d just put in a good showing. It’s like you’d already decided he ‘wasn’t worth the money’.

But it’s just a daft to make any judgement about the fee we’ve paid at this stage, after the bizarre start we have had.

A lot of the high profile big money signings don’t appear to be ‘worth the money’.

Isak, Sesko, Wirtz, Elanga…… have hardly set the world on fire but may well turn out to be worth the money eventually.

As I also acknowledged. Feel free to read the argument presented, rather than the one that's most convenient to rail against.

For now, based on what I've seen, he's not making my XI.

Do we have any whispers about availablity for Wood or CHO ?

Neither start

Or on bench

Dominguez on the wing again! Yay?

I must say I'd rather only 1 of Sangare and Dominguez were starting with another more attacking player lining up instead.