• 23 Nov 2025, 11 a.m.

    They've gone to the laws of the game, and picked the only excuse for the decision that they gave that could possibly apply. It's unfortunate that it didn't actually hit his arm, but thems the breaks. It's all they've got.

    HANDLING THE BALL

    For the purposes of determining handball offences, the upper boundary of the arm is in line with the bottom of the armpit. Not every touch of a player’s hand/arm with the ball is an offence.

    It is an offence if a player: 

    • deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, for example moving the hand/arm towards the ball
    • touches the ball with their hand/arm when it has made their body unnaturally bigger. A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation. By having their hand/arm in such a position, the player takes a risk of their hand/arm being hit by the ball and being penalised
    • scores in the opponents' goal:
      • directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental, including by the goalkeeper
      • immediately after the ball has touched their hand/arm, even if accidental

    The goalkeeper has the same restrictions on handling the ball as any other player outside the penalty area. If the goalkeeper handles the ball inside their penalty area when not permitted to do so, an indirect free kick is awarded but there is no disciplinary sanction.  However, if the offence is playing the ball a second time (with or without the hand/arm) after a restart before it touches another player, the goalkeeper must be sanctioned if the offence stops a promising attack or denies an opponent or the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity.  

    Aircraft Ground Handling

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  • 23 Nov 2025, 11:09 a.m.

    .....ooh, and to mitigate us getting caught up in the web of shambles that the game has been turned into through the interpretation of the laws and statistics, Jesus put in a great finish as the ball dropped. Get's a 'can kick' in the eye test marks.

  • 23 Nov 2025, 11:26 a.m.

    I think we should be bringing him on at 60mins. Plus a couple of others, bomb-squad style.

  • 23 Nov 2025, 12:10 p.m.

    Taking a break from watching the highlights for the eleventy billionth time to read this thread for the eleventy billionth time.
    Also hungover as fuck. Can't imagine why.

  • 23 Nov 2025, 1:09 p.m.

    There is an attempt here, even if some of it is just a slightly more in depth exercise in telling what you see rather than telling you what you don't.

    www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cewjlwwx41zo

  • 23 Nov 2025, 2:13 p.m.

    It should have been four. It should have been four! You Scouse Bastards it should have been Four!!!!

    Chicago: Singer.

  • 23 Nov 2025, 2:20 p.m.

    Indeed, lengthy description of what you can see, interspersed with the odd wishy-washy "had six players in the six-yard box including goalkeeper Alisson, while the visitors smartly only placed two in there" (no news on what either side was trying to achieve, or why one was smart...excepting the obvious 'outcome'), "The visitors found themselves with three players on the left flank." (Teleport? Invisible cloak?), "These situations are incredibly difficult to defend against" (oh no! football is broken, there's nothing that can be done! Why don't people do this more?), "Defenders could step out more proactively to block shots, chances could be stopped at source, or a more positionally aware defensive midfielder could focus on defending this zone." (Summary: A different bunch of players, could play a completely different game, with the possibility of a different outcome).

    Lots and lots of say what you see, fuck all actual analysis. No word on how the teams set up, and why that leads to a different game dynamic and outcome. Nothing on what the teams were doing to get players into specific areas, or where they were running. Nothing on how either teams were managing the space on the pitch. No word on movements and strategies to expose weaknesses, or to manage the ball and minimise weaknesses. Nothing on why liverpool could have kept playing until now and not have scored, and how we would have probably gone on to pick them off at a rate of approximately once every half an hour.

    So yeah, not really 'analysis'. more catchphrase "just say what you see".

  • 23 Nov 2025, 2:47 p.m.

    Yes. Hence why I say that there is an attempt, rather than claiming it to be some kind of insight. It's still better than any of the jobbing ex-pros manage though.

  • 23 Nov 2025, 3:52 p.m.

    I watched a clip of MotD with him for the first time yesterday. Appalling. Sounds like he’s never spoken in public in his life. Shit “analysis” and halting, unsure delivery?

  • 23 Nov 2025, 4:50 p.m.

    I suppose there isn't a lot of gratification for journalists trying to tell Scousers that Terence Trent Alexander Derby made a significant difference by transforming a defensive position here into an attacking position there in the blink of an eye, changing how opposition teams approached them. It's not the only reason, and it's something they'll work through, but it's not as cathartic.

    Like LLMs, just give the people what they want. Rage and outrage.

  • 23 Nov 2025, 4:55 p.m.

    Not enough is being made of the fact that they spent 125M on Florian Wirtz to replace him, and on form so far he wouldn't get into our starting XI.

  • 23 Nov 2025, 5:06 p.m.

    Wirtz is more of a number 10 isn't he? Not really a TAA replacement.

    Frimpong was the TAA replacement .

  • 23 Nov 2025, 5:18 p.m.

    It's impressive that Liverpool, who's recruitment was so good for so long, went mad in the summer and spent the thick end of half a billion quid on a bunch of players that they don't have any idea of how to fit together.

  • 23 Nov 2025, 5:20 p.m.

    Pretty sure Wirtz is supposed to be the deep lying playmaker alongside Gravenberch. TBF it's hard to see what Wirtz is because he's been anonymous.

  • 23 Nov 2025, 5:33 p.m.

    I got what you meant, replacement as a creative force, rather than a direct replacement in his position.

  • 23 Nov 2025, 5:40 p.m.

    It shows how good a lot of that Liverpool squad is that they can effectively play that well with 10 men, given Isak's expensive presence.