Yates thinks we stifled them first half and they didn't create any chances, forgetting their header just wide as Savona ramped up the Stinkometer and also forgetting that we created fuck all ourselves.
He also thinks we did enough to win and has mentioned 'fine margins'.
You reap what you sow, etc. Not sure it's that the players don't give a fuck - I mean they had plenty of fucks to give against Arsenal.
I just think you're looking at group who have no clue what's going on. They lost a clearly popular coach weeks into the season and since then it's been a shitshow off the pitch. Two polar-opposite replacements appointed and players whose heads are spinning as a result.
Factor in the loss of Chris Wood and Anthony Elanga and it's not actually that surprising to see it going to shit.
This is it. We pose very little threat to any opposition. I like Jesus but the fucker can’t score. None of the wingers score enough. Morgan doesn’t score enough (he’s our top scorer because, incredibly, of penalties). Anderson doesn’t score. We don’t score from set pieces.
This is true....it was also likely that things would not be as good this season, because a lot of players hit peak performance at once...that was always likely to hit a dip...but we had the opportunity to cash in at peak value, and rebuild with some clever recruitment to give a broader squad that could develop.
Not really. It took over a season for Slot to get his ideas across, to a lot better, more established squad. Fair play to him though, he's got them playing his way now though.
I've had to mute Dyche wittering on about 1 minute of madness, before I start shouting 'what about the other 89 minutes ranging from mostly nothing to shite?'
In a crowded field I’ll give him the honour of being the shittest player of the match due to his goal.
His positional sense was atrocious, passing was atrocious and he just gave needless free kicks away.
Even the weak free header deflected over was terrible, he managed to aim it towards the keeper so if the defender hadn’t fo the block the keeper would have had an easy save.
With apologies for offending those who like to think there are simple solutions to everything, us being regularly dreadful is mainly not Sean Dyche's fault. Take one very decent starting 11 with excellent unity and teamwork, appoint an outsider as director of football, strip out our biggest goal threat and one of the best and most creative fullbacks in the year last year for 5 months, fall out with the coach and shatter the team spirit, unsettle our key midfield pivot with a Spurs offer, sell our quickest and most physically gifted forward, appoint an antipodean buffoon who channels the ghost of Ossie Ardiles, lose pretty much every game for 7 or 8 games. That's the utter shambles of a situation Sean Dyche came into. He came into that, got us out the relegation zone, got us winning in Europe, beat the champions, steam-rollered Spurs, beat Wolves as they were starting to play, beat West Ham in a six-pointer, held the champions elect. Yes it's not at all great, but if we are looking at why things have gone wrong this season the main causative factor is not Sean Dyche. If we hadn't appointed him when we had, we would probably be adrift in the bottom three. If we had not pissed off Nuno and had a settled preseason we may well be in the top 10. But we are where we are and Dyche deserves time and patience to build on what he has already achieved. We could do far worse than get through this season intact, sell Murillo and Anderson, sack Edu and try and construct something with Dyche.
Just as I'm nodding off tonight I might have a flashback to Luiz dropping in between the centre backs and MGW pushing up alongside Ndoye leaving us with Yates as the only link midfielder in a 5-1-4 where 2 of the 4 didn't appear to want the ball.
Is it any wonder we had so little go forward / progression.
Circumstances change timelines and outcomes, is the serious point.
I have observed before that teams often exhibit their most potent form while they retain a bit from the old one, and have got a bit from the new one. Particularly when they are opposite styles. Then it swings away from good, to transition.
So the question becomes: is where you might be ultimately headed, better then where you left? For me, yes. I agree with the football values of a Dyche. I don't those of a postanoclue chap.
But you can't dismiss overlaid factors like losing the player that opened up the passing lanes on the pitch with his runs, and losing the bloke who sticks it in the netty thing. I mean you can, if you have equivalent level operatives - even in a different style.
But we haven't.
If you look at the likes of McAtee, Hutchinson, Savona, you are going to have to score a lot of goals. Because you sure as shit are going to concede them. As much as Jesus is quality at getting the ball under, and with his movement, he isn't a finisher (at the level, yet). There are almost no goals in the rest of the side, even from penalties.
Not sure what amazing tactics and man management people think can quickly solve those problems. I think its going to take time and work.
On a good day we look solid. On a bad day we look like they haven't taken the ideas on board well, and they are training harder than they are used to. The shape looks okay to me.... But that can't compensate for players being shit without the ball, and not being able to defend one on one.
There was some garbage stuff out there tonight. I'm pretty sure Dyche didn't send the Serbinator out there to defend one on one like an U14's winger. Given that's what he did, letting his man run free in the channels and through him, I'm not sure what he could have done tactically. Beyond predicting that the centre halves would look like novices, and finding a sweeper that we don't have to play behind them.
Barring our top eight or so, there's width but not the requisite quality. First choice side has obvious problems. Make a couple of changes and we are miles off it. Coupled with a bit of regression to the mean, a bit of being over footballed, a bit of disruption and lack of confidence, and a soupçon of extra injury (exacerbated by psychological factors), there are problems outside coaching and motivation.
I think Dyche has us achieving top half outcomes in league and Europe, despite these problems.
What are people expecting? We aren't really an established top flight side yet, in terms of squad at the level. Despite the massive overperformance of last season. That opportunity was largely squandered with the summer transfer dealings.