• 24 Aug 2023, 10:05 a.m.

    As the patience has declined over the tenure of managers, so has the willingness to develop players. There's a moaninho school of management, that requires a ready made player of skillset 'a' to fit into slot 'a'. What was so brilliant about the Clough/Taylor model was to identify players with skillset 'a', that could be modified to fit slot 'b'.

    What makes up a player? Well, it's how do they run, and how can they kick. What sort of athlete they are, which determines the level that they can play at...and what can they do with and without the ball - that's how you can deploy them to fit with your shape and attacking plan.

    In the last year or so the calibre of athlete that we have signed has gone up. The kicking skillset that we look for is 'can move the ball on quickly'. It's why MGW suits us better than, say, a Maddison might. MGW moves the ball quickly, with a degree of risk, but when it comes off it plays to the pace that we have around him. Maddison diddles around on the ball, drawing defenders in, and popping it into the spaces. Which in our case would mean that defences are now set around him, but is the skillset you need in a 'bigger' club, more dominant on the ball, with a heavier requirement to break down set defences.

    It is entirely possible that a player can be a 'failure' at one club, because their skillset doesn't match the pattern of play, but be successful under a different plan (See angry Serge).

    So I will be looking at what the fella can do. Look at what sort of athlete he is, how well he defends one on one, what his strengths are on the ball - does he need to slow up and pump a pass, can he play it accurately on the move, how quickly does he see a pass, what sort of risk profile does he employ with the balls that he plays. But also not go overboard until he's had a bit of time - Lodi I wasn't exactly overly enamoured with, when he started with us, by the time he finished I was more than happy.

    Stat's can be hugely misleading, because they are very largely a function of who a player is playing with, and who against. For me it's what can he do, and how does that work for us. The trick with recruitment is finding a good candidate to fill the requirements of the role. Coaching/management is to make that happen. Sports science and treatment is to get them on the pitch regularly in the sort of shape to get them to perform their role. Fans play a role in creating a supportive environment for the player to settle and give their best.

    I'll be watching him, not boing him (though he probably wouldn't hear from cotgrave anyway), and see what he can do.

  • 24 Aug 2023, 10:05 a.m.

    I think you judge the transfer window by the squad you've got at the end. At the moment, it's a bit weird as we have 5(?) options at right (wing) back and only 1 specialist on the left, who's likely to get a sizeable ban before January. I think it's safe to assume we won't end up there.

  • 24 Aug 2023, 11:28 a.m.

    We have past experience of different people in the club following different ideas of recruitment and past experience of amassing players in a way that leaves several outside of our operating squad every season and past experience of a coup narrative being used to distract from a general lack of coherent activity. Maybe that's all in the past, maybe not.

  • 24 Aug 2023, 11:39 a.m.

    How many were we paying not to even be included in the squad after January last season? Taylor, Cafu, Cook, Arter? If that number is lower at the end of this window, I'd regard that as a significant achievement. I make it 8 today (7, if Fornah signs for Derby).

  • 24 Aug 2023, 1:13 p.m.

    That's not true at all. They rated him very highly, but he wanted regular playing time and the Wolves couldn't guarantee him that with the likes of Nunes and Moutinho in the squad ahead of him. Steve absolutely turned his head but it still took a huge amount of work, and money, to persuade them to let him go.

  • 24 Aug 2023, 1:24 p.m.

    I don’t know any Wolves fans but if I did I bet they would be thick as mince. Bunch of sub Brummie cnuts. They wouldn’t know their arse from their elbow even if it was stuck up their own orifices.

    Chicago: Great judge of people.

  • 24 Aug 2023, 2:19 p.m.

    Their fans were constantly saying he was shit. And even targeted his gf on social media with abuse when he was with them.

  • 24 Aug 2023, 2:31 p.m.

    So basically what Chic said.

  • 24 Aug 2023, 5:44 p.m.

    Rumour of a 15M bid for a left back from Porto called Zaidu. The comment thread is full of fans incredulous that anyone would consider offering that kind of money for him. For example:

  • 24 Aug 2023, 5:54 p.m.

    Six foot, twenty-six, got a left foot. How bad could it be?

  • 24 Aug 2023, 5:57 p.m.

    Gaetan Bong

  • 24 Aug 2023, 6:54 p.m.

    Gaetan Bong wasn't ever going to play 70 games for Porto. There may or may not be wisdom in the assessment of random Internet fans of other foreign clubs who happen to speak English, but there may be bollocks too. Either way, we can but hope that as a professional football club spending millions with a dedicated full time recruitment team the due diligence undertaken by Nottingham Forest is a bit more sophisticated. We had all this when Felipe signed last season and he turned out to be rather adequate.

  • 24 Aug 2023, 7:54 p.m.

    But as others have said social media was filled with Wolves fans saying he wasn't worth what we paid and he was rubbish etc.

    Which seems to me to be pretty analogous to the Sevilla fan quotes you are using about our latest signing?

  • 24 Aug 2023, 7:58 p.m.

    That isn't my recollection at all, my experience was that Wolves fans were thoroughly fucked off with Forest not taking no for an answer and wanting to keep MGW. It was fans of other teams who knew nothing about him laughing at how much we were paying, a storyline that soon went quiet as the season progressed.

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    24 Aug 2023, 7:59 p.m.

    Wolves fans weren’t happy that he wanted to leave for first team football rather than bench warm.

    When he made it clear he wanted to go and play for SSC at the WFCG they turned on him like a spurned teenager who neverlikedhimanyway innit!?

    When Fab gave the HWG they were crywanking into their crusty, shite brummie socks.